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Puck's avatar

There is no question the Syrian born Ahmed al-Ahmed. acted with exemplary bravery. He saw a violent assault on civilians in progress and acted to stop it as best he could. A cynic might ask whether or not in the chaos of the moment he was aware that the targets of the attack were Jews because they were Jews. If he didn't, would he till have acted if he did know?

Of course not all Muslims take it as their religious duty to kill Jews wherever they find them as the Quran and Hadiths command the Faithful. There are those who wouldn't bloody their hands but approve of others doing the deed. There are those who don't care one way or another; those who are indifferent; and those who condemn such violence. Thus, to name those who murder in the name of Allah for His glory and to preserve the purity of the Ummah as Islamic extremists or radical Islamicist misses the point. They are pietists, fundamentalists, the devout, True Believers.

"What followed the attack was not clarity or responsibility. It was evasion."

Labelling the reaction by the by politicians, civil authorities, and media as evasion gives them a hard pass. To call a thing for what it is, they engaged in outright equivocation, prevarication, and dissembling. After all, if you basically agree with the Red-Green axis position on Jews and the Jewish right to self-determination, you don't want to make any public statement that can be interpreted as supporting the enemy of the True, the Good, and the Righteous.

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G Bobbi's avatar

They say that societies that allow guns to be carried are polite societies. Australia, by this definition, is not polite. Further, they make their society even less polite by allowing immigrants to possess firearms while preventing their native-borne citizens from protecting themselves.

I’m wondering what happened to the society that supported the US in WWII and Vietnam.

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Jeffrey Alhadeff's avatar

Yonatan, I’ve been waiting for your post on this pogrom. Thank you for your clarity.

One of the things I’ve been grappling with, unsuccessfully, is articulating the experience of living in a time where pogroms are part of our present, no longer relics of the past.

I’d love to hear your thoughts.

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Heartworker's avatar

There can be a whole host of reasons why someone cannot or will not recognize Islam for what it is, or refuses altercation with Islam.

-- General indifference; an inability or unwillingness to get to the bottom of things;

-- an inability or unwillingness to engage in debate or confrontation;

-- a sense of "guilt" on the part of the "West" due to its colonial history, a "feeling" that completely prevents it from grasping the far worse and longer-lasting racism, colonialism, and slave-master society and mindset of THE Islam;

-- an open or covert aversion to Jews;

-- a disbelief—despite all the acts of violence "in the name of Islam"— and refusal of wanting to understand that this ideology is in fact thoroughly and incurably constituted by unalterable hatred towards "unbelievers";

-- a predisposition of self-hatred that finds nourishment and confirmation in the self-proclaimed "good" and "true" Islam , a.m.o.

But the most decisive thing from my experience with children and the "education" system:

From a young age, children are taught in our kindergartens and schools to "have no prejudices," even when certain experiences with certain individuals or "groups" or those who categorize themselves into groups and tolerate no "outsiders" are repeatedly occurring again and again.

The vast majority of "our" children "in the West" learn consideration and attentiveness from an early age. They learn to perceive and take feelings seriously, but also to try to control them. They learn "tolerance," they learn to perceive, discover, and develop themselves while respecting and considering others, and so on.

However, all of this does not apply to Islam. This religion and its members consider themselves superior, they refuse respect for "non-believers," and they consider their "religion" to be the "final revelation."

Muslims are taught and infiltrated with this from youngest age.

Which doesn´t mean, Muslims cannot be polite, striving, respecting - but if so, they draw the substance for such abilities from different sources than is the case in the "West". They do it because they want to be "proud Muslims" - not a distinctive individual.

And while children who have learned in "The West" not to accept such unacceptable traits of disrespect or being "savage" in themselves and others and to view them critically, this is not supposed to apply to Muslims. It all too often gets not demanded from them, because those demanding it might be defamed as "-phobe".

When one observes these unfortunately quite typical characteristics in Muslims, one is not allowed to speak of them—only with everyone else is it permissible to do so.

But if one does speak of this to Muslims, children get taught, "You have to be tolerant," "Are you (xeno)phobic?"

The conditioning / Dressage of people in the "West" by and "for" Muslims, their overt or unspoken pose of superiority, is successful – because "the West" allows it, and suppresses criticism of Muslims and "Islam," judging it as negative, defaming it....

From a young age, children are indoctrinated with this attitude, which contradicts everything that everywhere else is considered standard practice—and this is the source of their defenselessness against "Islam."

No one wants to be seen as "intolerant" and "xenophobic." Only "Islam" is allowed to be intolerant and xenophobic, and it is accustomed to being "accepted" as such—all the education, critical perception, and critical engagement that are actually learned in the "West" are rendered powerless here.

Society renders itself helpless in the face of "Islam."

It makes itself schizophrenic, and therefore the common approach to Islam rightly appears as (mentally) sick.

"The West" has to decide SOON if it wants to die in sickness or find back to ilive ts mental strength.

Society is rendering itself helpless in the face of "Islam." And so Islam manages to project its own mental illness onto other societies instead of being forced to recognize and eliminate its own dangerous mental illness.

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